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What if Philips CD-i would appear on Nintendo's Virtual Console...

>> Thursday, January 18, 2007

Besides being a cash-cow I think Nintendo's Virtual Console is the perfect way to conserve all the retrogaming platforms from gathering dust. And because CD-i and Nintendo already have something in common, it would be a very nice extension to the download list as well! Eventually the obscure Nintendo licensed CD-i games would reach a mass public. It would boost the interest in a console that already appeals to the same public: A family friendly system with easy-to-pick-up games. Wouldn't families enjoy the Kidspace classics like Sesame Street, Richard Scarry and Mother Goose to download from the Virtual Console? Wouldn't you enjoy the died out FMV game genre like Mad Dog McCree and Dragon's Lair again?

Supported platforms currently include the Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) and Nintendo's own classics. Ofcourse these cartridge based formats never have much data to transfer once you want to download a game. CD-i games easily go up to 700MB when the game supports Digital Video. But the main problem would be to get all the copyrights. However, a lot of those software companies don't even exist anymore. It's hard to discover what happened to them, but the copyrights are probably bought by parent companies. Unfortunately Philips is a big company and I doubt there would be any interest.

What do we need to do to make this happen? It would be great to save the CD-i genre in the famous "Virtual Console", and play the Apprentice and Hotel Mario like ever before. These CD-i games will extinct after all CD-i batteries are dead and no full supporting emulator have been built by then. And because CD-i is not the most easy platform ever invented, I cross my fingers for this to happen in the first place! Meanwhile it would be the ultimate goal the Black Moon Project would reach if CD-i is hosted at Nintendo's domain for good.

11 reacties:

Bas January 19, 2007 at 6:36 PM  

I'm happy to be an inspiration for Defunct Games, a website focussing on all kinds of videogames. They have added the Zelda CD-i games on number 3 in their "Top 25 of games that will never be released on the Virtual Console". Read it here:

"Synopsis Not every Zelda game has been released on a Nintendo console; case and point are the three titles available for the Philips CD-i. While these games may not look or feel like A Link to the Past or Twilight Princess, they are no less Zelda games that fans of the series should check out (if only to better appreciate the quality of Nintendo's own Zelda titles).

What's the Hold Up? There are a lot of things keeping these CD-i Zelda titles from seeing the light of day on the Wii. Chief among these problems is that currently the Virtual Console does not offer CD-i games. While this could certainly change in the future, I simply cannot imagine the amount of systems they would have to add before finally getting to Philips' failed console.

Phil January 20, 2007 at 1:01 PM  

As much as I would love to see CD-i titles on the Virtual Console there is no possible way it could happen in its current incarnation - you only have 512MB which simply isn't enough for the majority of the CD-i titles (and that is if you don't have anything else on the on-board memory). Unless Nintendo start to allow users to play games directly from memory cards it is impossible, and that doesn't even take into account whether the Wii could even emulate the CD-i. Still, it's nice to dream...

Corey,  January 21, 2007 at 4:06 PM  

I really would love if they did release it especially the good games like

The Apprentice
Lucky Luke
Christmas Country
Mutant Rampage

And perhaps they could make the controls more responsive for
the zelda games.
They would be a lot more fun to play.

I'm sure nintendo will eventually release a add-on ext hard-drive.

But, are the games really too big? I mean I'm sure they could be shrunk down somehow

Anonymous,  January 21, 2007 at 4:07 PM  

Well other then emailing nintendo, if we wanted to show that there was interest who on the philips side would we email?

Bas January 21, 2007 at 5:19 PM  

The publishing copyrights belonged to Philips Media, a division Philips which is dormant right now. The rights differ between countries, like with Lucky Luke was a german publishing, and the Apprentice, a benelux one. It would be extremely difficult to gather all the right copyrights in my opinion, of which most producers don't even exist anymore nowadays. There's no use of contacting Philips, they sold off any rights to Infogrames (france), Softmachine (Benelux) and one I can't remember anymore in germany.

The games are indeed pretty big if you take into account the audio was regular audio cd quality sound and the video compression for Digital Video was pretty big. Games using a lot of Digital Video sequences (Like the ones from ALG and Virgin) take up 500MB easily.

I think Nintendo isn't eager on letting people play from SD memorycards directly because it would go hand in hand with piracy, don't you think? Still, the CD-i games are more popular than one might think, so who knows a publisher tries something out on a different online sefvice, like Xbox Live Marketplace?

Anonymous,  January 21, 2007 at 10:48 PM  

I can't seem to find the websites of
Softmachine (Benelux)

nor the contact info.

I'm sure if they made a hard drive attachment they'd make it so it would not be compatible with PCs.

I jsut do't know how they'd make it attach to the wii.

Perhaps since the Wii has wireless capabitilies it could be a wireless device... or plug into the Usb port .

Bas January 22, 2007 at 8:05 PM  

Softmachine Publishing can be found here: http://www.softmachine.nl/

However, if you want to get it forward, I think you'd better start with Atari (former Infogrames), owner of all the USA left-overs of Philips Media.

Then again, bear in mind a wise thought phil posted here: The Wii should first be able to host games like CD-i, both in disk space as in emulation capacity... Somehow I think Xbox Live Homebrew makes a better change. Who!

Corey,  January 23, 2007 at 1:43 AM  

True. I think I'd be taken more seriously if Wii got a external hard drive add on or some way to host systems with large games like Saturn

Bas January 29, 2007 at 7:28 PM  

Aren't you able to save VC games on SD card? These go up to 2GB (or more?) at the moment, so this would overcome the disc storage problem a little ;) Maybe some PC-CD-ROM cross-overs like Burn:Cycle are more easy to convert? You never know what the future holds....

Corey,  January 30, 2007 at 5:12 AM  

You are able to save games on a SD card. But, I heard its iffy to use a SD card with more then 2 GBs as it might not be read.

Plus, games while they can be stored on SD cards, they can't directly be played off them.

OddGuy,  December 7, 2007 at 1:57 AM  

I would love playing The Apprentice once more, especially on my the ease of VC. I'm just not entirely sure on the whole idea itself. CD-i just has so much hate built up on it because of the Nintendo licensed games it had.

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Games 0-F

3rd Degree - PF Magic
7th Guest, The - Philips Freeland Studios
Accelerator - SPC/Vision
Adventure of the Space Ship Beagle, The - Denshi Media Services
Affaire Morlov, L' - Titus
Alfapet - Adatek
Alice in Wonderland - Spinnaker
Alien Gate - SPC Vision
Alien Odyssee - Argonaut
Aliens Interactive CD-i - Dark Vision Interactive
Ange et le Demon, L' - Smart Move
Apprentice, The - SPC Vision
Apprentice 2, The - Marvin's Revenge - SPC Vision
Arcade Classics - Philips ADS / Namco
Asterix - Caesar’s Challenge - Infogrames
Atlantis - The Last Resort - PRL Redhill (Philips ADS)
Axis and Allies - CapDisc
Backgammon - CapDisc
Battle Chess - Accent Media (for Interplay)
Battleship - CapDisc
Big Bang Show - Infogrames
BMP Puzzle - Circle (for ZYX)
Brain Dead 13 - Readysoft
Burn:Cycle - Trip Media
Caesar's World of Boxing - Philips POV
Caesar's World of Gambling - CD-I Systems
Cartoon Academy - Bits Corporation
CD-i mit der Maus - SPC Vision
CD Shoot - Eaglevision Interactive Productions
Change Angels Kick-off - HMO
Chaos Control - Infogrames
Christmas Country - Creative Media
Christmas Country - The Lost Levels - Creative Media
Christmas Crisis - DIMA
Clue - 3T Productions
Clue 2 - The mysteries continue - 3T Productions
Connect Four - CapDisc
Creature Shock - Argonaut (for Virgin)
Crime Patrol - CapDisc
Crow, The - Philips POV
Cyber Soldier Sharaku - Japan Interactive media
Dame was Loaded, The - Beam Software
Dark Castle - Philips POV
Dead End - Cryo
Defender of the Crown - Philips POV
Deja Vu - Icom Simulations
Deja Vu 2: Lost in Las Vegas - Icom Simulations
Demolition Man - Virgin Interactive Entertainment
Demon Driver - Haiku Studios
Discworld - Teeny Weeny Games
Dimo's Quest - SPC Vision
Domino - Wigant Interactive Media
Down in the Dumps - Haiku Studios
Dragon's Lair - Superclub / INTL CDI
Dragon's Lair 2- Time Warp - Superclub / INTL CDI
Drug wars - Crime Patrol II - CapDisc
Dungeons & Dragons - PF Magic
Earth Command - Visionary Media
Effacer - CapDisc
Escape from Cybercity - Fathom Pictures
Evidence - Microids
Falco & Donjon & The Sword of Inoxybur - BMi / Zephyr Studio
Family Games I - DIMA
Family Games II - Junk Food Jive - DIMA
Felix the Cat - Philips Sidewalk Studio
Flashback - Delphine/Tiertex (for US Gold)
Flinstones Wacky Inventions - Philips Funhouse
Fort Boyard: The Challenge - Microids
Frog Feast - Rastersoft

CD-i Games Index G-M

Go - CapDisc
Golden Oldies - SPC Vision
Golden Oldies II - SPC Vision
Golgo 13 - Japan Interactive Media
Great day at the races, A - CD-I Racing, Dove Films, Total Vision
Guignols de l'Info, Les - Canal+ Multimedia / INTL CDI
Heart of Darkness - Amazing Studio (for Virgin)
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The - Philips Kaleidoscope
Holland Casino CD-i - HMO
Hotel Mario - Philips Fantasy Factory
Inca - Coktel Vision
Inca 2 - Coktel Vision
International Tennis Open - Infogrames
Jack Sprite vs. The Crimson Ghost - PF Magic
Jeopardy - Accent Media
Jigsaw - Novalogic
Joe Guard - DIMA
John Dark: Psychic Eye - CapDisc
Joker's Wild!, The - Accent Media
Joker's Wild Jr., The - Accent Media
Kether - Infogrames
Kingdom - The far reaches - CapDisc
Kingdom 2 - Shadoan - CapDisc
Labyrinth of Crete - Philips Funhouse
Laser Lords - Spinnaker
Last Bounty Hunter, The - CapDisc
Legend of the Fort - Microids
Lemmings - DMA Design / Psygnosis
Lettergreep - Wigant Interactive Media
Lingo - SPC Vision
Link - The faces of evil - Animation Magic
Lion King, The - Virgin Interactive Entertainment
Litil Divil - Gremlin Graphics
Litil Divil 2: Limbo Years - Gremlin Graphics
Lords of the rising sun - Philips POV
Lost Eden - Cryo (for Virgin)
Lost Ride, The - Formula (Lost Boys)
Lucky Luke - The video game - SPC Vision
Mad Dog McCree - CapDisc
Mad Dog McCree II: The lost gold - CapDisc
Magic Eraser - Circle (for ZYX)
Mah-Jong - Japan Interactive Media
Making the Grade - 3T Productions
Man Before Man - Cryo
Marco Polo - Infogrames
Mario Takes America - CIGAM
Master Labyrinth - AVM AG/HQ
Mega Maze - CapDisc
Memory Works, The - Compact Disc Incorporated
Merlin's Apprentice - Philips Funhouse
Microcosm - Philips Freeland Studios
Micro Machines - Codemasters
Monty Python's Invasion from the Planet Skyron - Daedalus CD-i Productions
Mutant Rampage - Body Slam - Animation Magic
Myst - Sunsoft (for Cyan)
Mystic Midway - Rest in pieces - Philips POV
Mystic Midway 2 - Phantom Express - Philips POV

Compact Disc Interactive

Compact Disc Interactive

Games N-Z

Name that tune - Philips Fantasy Factory
New Day - Bits Corporation
NFL Hall of Fame Football - Philips POV
Othello - HMO
Pac Panic - Philips ADS / Namco
Palm Springs Open - ABC Sports / Fathom Pictures
Pool - SPC Vision
Pinball - CapDisc
Plunderball - ISG Productions
Power Hitter - ABC Sports / Fathom Pictures
Power Match - Two's Company
Pursue - BEPL
Pyramid Adventures - Compact Disc Incorporated
RAMRaid - PRL Redhill
Return To Cybercity - Fathom Pictures
Riddle of the Maze, The - Fathom Pictures
Riqa - Bits Corporation
Rise of the Robots - Mirage Technologies
Sargon Chess - Spinnaker
Scotland Yard Interactive - AVM AG/HQ
Secret Mission - Microids
Secret Name of Ra, The
Shaolin's Road - Infogrames
Skate Dude - Viridis
Smurfen, De - De Telesmurf - Infogrames
Solar Crusade - Infogrames
Solitaire - BEPL
Space Ace - Superclub / INTL CDI
Space Ranger - Studio Interactive
Special Operations Squadron - SPC Vision
Sport Freaks - SPC Vision
Star Trek - Philips POV
Star Wars: Rebel Assault - LucasArts
Steel Machine - SPC Vision
Striker Pro - Rage
Strip Poker Live - Greenpig Production
Strip Poker Pro - Interactive Pictures
Super Fighter - The Super Fighter Team / C&E
Super Mario's Wacky Worlds - NovaLogic
Surf City - Philips Sidewalk Studios
Tangram - Eaglevision Interactive Productions
Taco's Toyroom Troopers - Creative Media
Tankdoodle - Creative Media
Tetris - Philips POV
Tetsuo Gaiden - Creative Media
Text Tiles
Thieves' World - Electronic Arts
Tic-tac-toe - BEPL
Tox Runner - ISG Productions
Treasures of Oz - Philips Kaleidoscope
Ultra CD-i Soccer - Krisalis
Uncover featuring Tatjana - SPC Vision
Uninvited - Icom Simulations
Video Speedway - ISG Productions
Vinnie the Pinguin - Pandemonium Labs
Voyeur - Philips POV
Voyeur 2 - Philips POV
Whack-a-Bubble - Creative Media
What's it worth - Marshall Cavendish Multimedia / Spice
Who shot Johnny Rock? - CapDisc
Wordplay - BEPL
World Cup Golf - US Gold
Zaak Sam, De - Toneelschool NL
Zelda - The wand of Gamelon - Animation Magic
Zelda's Adventure - Viridis
Zenith - Radarsoft
Zombie Dinos From The Planet Zeltoid - Philips POV

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