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CD-i Copyrights

>> Saturday, February 24, 2007

Something that is still very vague to me is this whole copyright thing. I'm sure the games itself are copyrighted, but for how long? What is legal to post and do? Can you legally post soundtracks of CD-i games? High-res video walkthroughs? The CD-i OS? Complete ROMS (to either use for back-up or copy? Are copyrights valid for a limited time, like 10 or 50 years? For some reason I think: "what would they care?" - I mean, nobody is making any profit out of these games anymore, right? Who would be harmed if the material was given for free to the public? Especially because Philips Media does not hold the rights anymore, at least, I think. Another vague subject. Who owns the rights of a product once the original publisher/developer doesn't exist anymore? Do the rights belong to the publisher, or to the developer? And if a publisher tells me I'm free to share a certain piece of software, how sure I can be I won't be hunted afterwards? I know there are a lot of websites with illegal content like this, but how illegal it actually is? Most of them are still online, so either nobody cares or it's less illegal than we think? In my eyes it's still material that belongs to somebody else (=the developer) but I don't think copyrights live forever, do they? Who can shed some light on this issue for me please...

Sure when it's about a license more parties are involved, like with the Nintendo titles or brands like Sesame Street or Lucky Luke. But how does that go? On forehand they didn't decide for how long the product was going to sell, and now they will not earn any money with it anymore. But they want to protect their IP, and they may use it later for... the Virtual Console. Or they don't want to be associated with the format anymore.

6 reacties:

Anonymous,  February 25, 2007 at 9:57 AM  

Ofcourse you're not allowed to share parts of the game such as complete soundtracks and complete videos in high-res. There are a lot of illegal websites even for CD-i and on one day they will be stopped. When it's low-res and just a part it's seen as advertising only and nobody will ring the bell, although it's all copyrighted material, you didn't make it right? I've seen an thread about this on your forum, by the way...

Anonymous,  February 25, 2007 at 10:01 AM  

to add, I believe boxarts are promotional material to the software and you're free to use it in any way in any resolution.

Every website disrespecting other people works are really selfish just to attract more visitors.

jacksson,  February 25, 2007 at 12:30 PM  

Does the developer of a cd-i game give up all their rights to the publisher?

Robin,  February 28, 2007 at 7:23 PM  

The music is copyrighted as well, so you shouldn't share full tracks. But it's sooo nice to hear those classic tunes again! I vote for CD-i on the Virtual Console! -Robin

Anonymous,  May 4, 2007 at 1:46 PM  

Hi there.

Here some answers to your questions, which are mainly applicable for Europe:

Copyright starts to exists on all produced creative work (music, photos, graphic materials, drawings, movies, etc) as soon as it is produced and exists till 70 years after the 1st of January after the creator has died (so the 1st of january 2007 the copyright of the work produced by people who died in 1936 has expired). Yes guys, it will last a very long time before the copyright of all produced CD-i material ends.

Owners who hold the copyright have the exclusive right to reproduce, make available to the public and distribute their work. Anyone else who does this without permission of the owner, acts illegaly. This means that one who copies CD-i material, who makes CD-i material available to the public (for instance by putting it on the internet and uploading) acts illegaly. There are some exceptions (different for most countries in the EU), especially the Dutch "kopie voor thuisgebruik", which says that one is allowed to make a copy for home use (for instance as a backup). Therefore downloading is considered not to be illegal in The Netherlands as long as it is for private use (one is not allowed to hire, give away or sell the copy for private use).

Of course an item which has been legally put on the EU-market (for instance almost all the CD-i games which were available in shops) can be re-sold or given away without problems. The owner of the copyright does not loose its copyright, but he cannot legally control the item the work is on. This is called "uitputting".

These rules are given in: Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society. But...there is the whole license thing.

The thing is that I don't know what contracts have been closed between Philips and its production partners. I know Philips is quite protective and it is possible that parties were only allowed to develop CD-i games if they would sell their copyright to Philips or that they had to give a licence Philips. Without knowing what the developers of the games (the copyrightholders) have agreed with other parties, it is hard to tell who owns the copyright this moment. It sure is owned by someone, but who...???

If you don't want to be hunted after sharing a piece of software you should go to the copyrightholder and ask for his permission to share the work.

There are a lot of sites who share software and games. Most of them act illegaly (because they make copyright protected work available to the public without the copyrightholders consent). The thing long the copyrightholder is not threatening with lawsuits most of these sites stay available on the internet. Most of the arguments of not going to court are economic arguments. Why going to court if one does not make money out of the work (the software or games). Why wanna force protection if the work does not make you any money in the future.


Bas May 4, 2007 at 8:43 PM  

Nice! Thanks for a clear answer Maarten! Obviously we're not able to share the games, but at least we spread as much info about them as possible ;)

It's typical Holland has this 'Thuiskopie' law, but I thought only uploading files is illegal, and downloading can't result in any lawsuit. Right?

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Games 0-F

3rd Degree - PF Magic
7th Guest, The - Philips Freeland Studios
Accelerator - SPC/Vision
Adventure of the Space Ship Beagle, The - Denshi Media Services
Affaire Morlov, L' - Titus
Alfapet - Adatek
Alice in Wonderland - Spinnaker
Alien Gate - SPC Vision
Alien Odyssee - Argonaut
Aliens Interactive CD-i - Dark Vision Interactive
Ange et le Demon, L' - Smart Move
Apprentice, The - SPC Vision
Apprentice 2, The - Marvin's Revenge - SPC Vision
Arcade Classics - Philips ADS / Namco
Asterix - Caesar’s Challenge - Infogrames
Atlantis - The Last Resort - PRL Redhill (Philips ADS)
Axis and Allies - CapDisc
Backgammon - CapDisc
Battle Chess - Accent Media (for Interplay)
Battleship - CapDisc
Big Bang Show - Infogrames
BMP Puzzle - Circle (for ZYX)
Brain Dead 13 - Readysoft
Burn:Cycle - Trip Media
Caesar's World of Boxing - Philips POV
Caesar's World of Gambling - CD-I Systems
Cartoon Academy - Bits Corporation
CD-i mit der Maus - SPC Vision
CD Shoot - Eaglevision Interactive Productions
Change Angels Kick-off - HMO
Chaos Control - Infogrames
Christmas Country - Creative Media
Christmas Country - The Lost Levels - Creative Media
Christmas Crisis - DIMA
Clue - 3T Productions
Clue 2 - The mysteries continue - 3T Productions
Connect Four - CapDisc
Creature Shock - Argonaut (for Virgin)
Crime Patrol - CapDisc
Crow, The - Philips POV
Cyber Soldier Sharaku - Japan Interactive media
Dame was Loaded, The - Beam Software
Dark Castle - Philips POV
Dead End - Cryo
Defender of the Crown - Philips POV
Deja Vu - Icom Simulations
Deja Vu 2: Lost in Las Vegas - Icom Simulations
Demolition Man - Virgin Interactive Entertainment
Demon Driver - Haiku Studios
Discworld - Teeny Weeny Games
Dimo's Quest - SPC Vision
Domino - Wigant Interactive Media
Down in the Dumps - Haiku Studios
Dragon's Lair - Superclub / INTL CDI
Dragon's Lair 2- Time Warp - Superclub / INTL CDI
Drug wars - Crime Patrol II - CapDisc
Dungeons & Dragons - PF Magic
Earth Command - Visionary Media
Effacer - CapDisc
Escape from Cybercity - Fathom Pictures
Evidence - Microids
Falco & Donjon & The Sword of Inoxybur - BMi / Zephyr Studio
Family Games I - DIMA
Family Games II - Junk Food Jive - DIMA
Felix the Cat - Philips Sidewalk Studio
Flashback - Delphine/Tiertex (for US Gold)
Flinstones Wacky Inventions - Philips Funhouse
Fort Boyard: The Challenge - Microids
Frog Feast - Rastersoft

CD-i Games Index G-M

Go - CapDisc
Golden Oldies - SPC Vision
Golden Oldies II - SPC Vision
Golgo 13 - Japan Interactive Media
Great day at the races, A - CD-I Racing, Dove Films, Total Vision
Guignols de l'Info, Les - Canal+ Multimedia / INTL CDI
Heart of Darkness - Amazing Studio (for Virgin)
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The - Philips Kaleidoscope
Holland Casino CD-i - HMO
Hotel Mario - Philips Fantasy Factory
Inca - Coktel Vision
Inca 2 - Coktel Vision
International Tennis Open - Infogrames
Jack Sprite vs. The Crimson Ghost - PF Magic
Jeopardy - Accent Media
Jigsaw - Novalogic
Joe Guard - DIMA
John Dark: Psychic Eye - CapDisc
Joker's Wild!, The - Accent Media
Joker's Wild Jr., The - Accent Media
Kether - Infogrames
Kingdom - The far reaches - CapDisc
Kingdom 2 - Shadoan - CapDisc
Labyrinth of Crete - Philips Funhouse
Laser Lords - Spinnaker
Last Bounty Hunter, The - CapDisc
Legend of the Fort - Microids
Lemmings - DMA Design / Psygnosis
Lettergreep - Wigant Interactive Media
Lingo - SPC Vision
Link - The faces of evil - Animation Magic
Lion King, The - Virgin Interactive Entertainment
Litil Divil - Gremlin Graphics
Litil Divil 2: Limbo Years - Gremlin Graphics
Lords of the rising sun - Philips POV
Lost Eden - Cryo (for Virgin)
Lost Ride, The - Formula (Lost Boys)
Lucky Luke - The video game - SPC Vision
Mad Dog McCree - CapDisc
Mad Dog McCree II: The lost gold - CapDisc
Magic Eraser - Circle (for ZYX)
Mah-Jong - Japan Interactive Media
Making the Grade - 3T Productions
Man Before Man - Cryo
Marco Polo - Infogrames
Mario Takes America - CIGAM
Master Labyrinth - AVM AG/HQ
Mega Maze - CapDisc
Memory Works, The - Compact Disc Incorporated
Merlin's Apprentice - Philips Funhouse
Microcosm - Philips Freeland Studios
Micro Machines - Codemasters
Monty Python's Invasion from the Planet Skyron - Daedalus CD-i Productions
Mutant Rampage - Body Slam - Animation Magic
Myst - Sunsoft (for Cyan)
Mystic Midway - Rest in pieces - Philips POV
Mystic Midway 2 - Phantom Express - Philips POV

Compact Disc Interactive

Compact Disc Interactive

Games N-Z

Name that tune - Philips Fantasy Factory
New Day - Bits Corporation
NFL Hall of Fame Football - Philips POV
Othello - HMO
Pac Panic - Philips ADS / Namco
Palm Springs Open - ABC Sports / Fathom Pictures
Pool - SPC Vision
Pinball - CapDisc
Plunderball - ISG Productions
Power Hitter - ABC Sports / Fathom Pictures
Power Match - Two's Company
Pursue - BEPL
Pyramid Adventures - Compact Disc Incorporated
RAMRaid - PRL Redhill
Return To Cybercity - Fathom Pictures
Riddle of the Maze, The - Fathom Pictures
Riqa - Bits Corporation
Rise of the Robots - Mirage Technologies
Sargon Chess - Spinnaker
Scotland Yard Interactive - AVM AG/HQ
Secret Mission - Microids
Secret Name of Ra, The
Shaolin's Road - Infogrames
Skate Dude - Viridis
Smurfen, De - De Telesmurf - Infogrames
Solar Crusade - Infogrames
Solitaire - BEPL
Space Ace - Superclub / INTL CDI
Space Ranger - Studio Interactive
Special Operations Squadron - SPC Vision
Sport Freaks - SPC Vision
Star Trek - Philips POV
Star Wars: Rebel Assault - LucasArts
Steel Machine - SPC Vision
Striker Pro - Rage
Strip Poker Live - Greenpig Production
Strip Poker Pro - Interactive Pictures
Super Fighter - The Super Fighter Team / C&E
Super Mario's Wacky Worlds - NovaLogic
Surf City - Philips Sidewalk Studios
Tangram - Eaglevision Interactive Productions
Taco's Toyroom Troopers - Creative Media
Tankdoodle - Creative Media
Tetris - Philips POV
Tetsuo Gaiden - Creative Media
Text Tiles
Thieves' World - Electronic Arts
Tic-tac-toe - BEPL
Tox Runner - ISG Productions
Treasures of Oz - Philips Kaleidoscope
Ultra CD-i Soccer - Krisalis
Uncover featuring Tatjana - SPC Vision
Uninvited - Icom Simulations
Video Speedway - ISG Productions
Vinnie the Pinguin - Pandemonium Labs
Voyeur - Philips POV
Voyeur 2 - Philips POV
Whack-a-Bubble - Creative Media
What's it worth - Marshall Cavendish Multimedia / Spice
Who shot Johnny Rock? - CapDisc
Wordplay - BEPL
World Cup Golf - US Gold
Zaak Sam, De - Toneelschool NL
Zelda - The wand of Gamelon - Animation Magic
Zelda's Adventure - Viridis
Zenith - Radarsoft
Zombie Dinos From The Planet Zeltoid - Philips POV

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