>> Wednesday, August 15, 2007
Yesterday I saw the auction of Gamgator about Frog Feast (27/50), which has been sold already over 40 copies out of the 50 signed copies available since CGE07. Number 1/50 was on auction at CGE, if you are the winner, I'd like to chat with you! Anyway, if you ask me, Frog Feast is selling well! Something that wasn't clear to me was about one comment in his auction: "PLEASE READ: This title will not play back on Philips model CDI490 players!" I remember Charles mentioning some multiplayer issues on players that require the splitter (the 4xx series that don't have a second controllerport on board). But I thought everything was working, according to his blog! Charles, the developer of Frog Feast, explains:
The game wasn't tested on a US CD-i 470, due to a problem reading CD-Rs. I do know it was tested on a Magnavox CD-i 550 and a Philips CD-450. These units both use the Roboco board, which is supposed to be the same chipset as the CD-i 470/490. I would guess there is some other problem with the CD-i 490. [The multiplayer issue] was based on some information posted by CD-i Fan. From what I gathered, the only time a splitter won't work is if there are already two ports on the unit. The only problem I noted was using a mouse on the CD-i 450. But, this was also a problem with Rise of the Robots.
However, Gamgator and Oldergames tested the CD's sold at CGE2K7 and they did not work on three different CDI490 players they had for sale. They did not have any problems playing them on: CDI220, CDI910 & Radio Shack 910 Clone, CDI350 as well as the SONY portable I sold. RW was to look into the brand of CD's they used . . . I've not heard back from him since CGE2K7 . . . So that's why he added the "Not for CDI490" for now.
So, it may look like the problem is caused by a low quality or just wrong chosen CD-R brand Oldergames used for publishing. The test version of Frog Feast runs perfect on my 490 player (brand: Philips) - How could the game itself go wrong if the demo runs fine? According to Gamgator the Frog Feast CD-i discs weren't recognized by the 490 player as a CD-i disc, so they couldn't even be started. It seems the other Oldergames titles including Plunderball didn't work on a 490.
Apparently, out of the test panel I'm the only one having a CD-i 490 player, so I got the original ISO to test it on my own brand of CDR. Just an hour ago I burnt the game and tested it on my 490.
The only thing left is to test the original game, which should arrive within a few days. We've got numbers 34 and 36; let's see if they will work on my player. I'm doubting if there is a difference between PAL and NTSC players. Moreover, the 490 is virtually the same as the 470, as far as I know. But I don't have a 470 player to test this. If one of you know this, please let us know.
*UPDATE* - I just tested the original ISO of the game (burnt on a Philips CDR) and the game runs FLAWLESS. So I'm pretty much convinced the type of CDR is the key here. I hope Oldergames is able to use different types of CDR Media and then all their CD-i Media would be compatible with all players. When you have a 490 or a 470, maybe Charles can tell us if we are able to rip the disc and create a copy yourself, so you can at least play the game on the 490 player. I think the results of the original disc are obvious then, but anyway, my test results will be posted as soon as possible.
If you've ordered Frog Feast and have a 490 (like me) don't worry, the game will play on it, just make a copy ;) Or are the discs copy-protected? I'll find out :D
Update 17/8: I just received my original copy number 34/50, and you know what... It plays again flawless on my 490. I tried it twenty times, and my player recognized the disc twenty times as a normal cd-i, and played the game without any issue. This leaves me with some questions, like what's the difference between their 490 and my 490? Borman also tested Frog Feast on a 490: "the game doesnt load that well on my CD-i 490 player either. But it did load after a few tries Smile My disk is number 4/50 if that matters any. But yeah, it does work! I even took some screenshots. Having some issues with my recording setup otherwise Id have a video up as well, and Charles agreed to a short interview via Email so look for that soon". So, I don't have any problems. And I don't know what kind of issues Gamgator and Borman are having now, and why.
Thanks to all the guys supporting: Charles, Oldergames, Gamgator.